http://michiganhsfootball.com/topic/6814/t/Who-is-the-favorite-in-the-MAC-GOLD-2009.html en-us Copyright 2006, Kickapps feeds@kickapps.com (FeedMaster) webmaster@kickapps.com (WebMaster) Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:08:36 GMT Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:20:33 GMT Kickapps Feeds 1.0 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss 60 {pics-1.1 "http://www.icra.org/ratingsv02.html" l gen true for "http://kickapps.com" r (nz 1 vz 1 lz 1 oz 1 cz 1 ) "http://www.rsac.org/ratingsv01.html" l gen true for "http://kickapps.com" r (n 0 s 0 v 0 l 0 )) Search Domain q http://kickapps.com/search/direct/ http://michiganhsfootball.com/reply/34449/t/Who-is-the-favorite-in-the-MAC-GOLD-2009.html#reply-34449
As for Walton - I showed up as the teams were warming up on the field. I saw him standing next to Johnson, with #8 on his back, and I thought, "holy crap, is that monster the guy who plays QB when Johnson lines up at RB?" Then I saw his name and remembered you mentioning him on here. What does that boy's mother feed him?

The MC defense did a pretty good job against the Dragons. As you pointed out, most of the Dragon's offensive production came on big plays, which last season would have gone for 6. I think the Mariner defenders have a better grasp of pusuit angles this year than they did last in 2008, and they certainly do a better job of tackling once they get to the ball carrier. I like seeing Jamel Abrams on D, because I think that's where he belongs if he's going... ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (completehomer) http://michiganhsfootball.com/sreply/34449 Mon, 05 Oct 2009 11:51:21 PST http://michiganhsfootball.com/reply/34446/t/Who-is-the-favorite-in-the-MAC-GOLD-2009.html#reply-34446
I agree with everything you said. Walton is a senior and has already been to all the in-state Division 1 schools for home games. I guess the offensive coach was just trying to build some momentum going into LC this week but i completely agree that it was wrong. Scarcelli did put his starters back in for the pic as well, though. The offense needs A TON of work. I think its very arrogant to think that one formation and 12 plays are gonna work consistently. I thought the D played ok (24 points, 14 on the first two "half field" drives) but they still couldve played better. A lot of mental mistakes according to my brother. I hear that johnson has put on about 15 lbs of muscle (205 now) and seems to have lost a step, speed wise. I thought that Clintondale had a few 40 yd runs that would have been TD's last year. The loss of firepower in the backfield and a young o-line, with the addition of an extremely simple offense to defend, has the dragons with their... ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (FSUdawg06) http://michiganhsfootball.com/sreply/34446 Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:50:04 PST http://michiganhsfootball.com/reply/34424/t/Who-is-the-favorite-in-the-MAC-GOLD-2009.html#reply-34424
But Walton was as you described. A mountain of a kid with a lot of skills. Is he a senior this year?

PS - I was more impressed with Abrams on D for Marine City than I was with Johnson on O for Clintondale. ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (completehomer) http://michiganhsfootball.com/sreply/34424 Sun, 04 Oct 2009 08:21:00 PST http://michiganhsfootball.com/reply/34381/t/Who-is-the-favorite-in-the-MAC-GOLD-2009.html#reply-34381 feeds@kickapps.com (completehomer) http://michiganhsfootball.com/sreply/34381 Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:12:22 PST http://michiganhsfootball.com/reply/34375/t/Who-is-the-favorite-in-the-MAC-GOLD-2009.html#reply-34375 feeds@kickapps.com (FSUdawg06) http://michiganhsfootball.com/sreply/34375 Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:29:47 PST http://michiganhsfootball.com/reply/34374/t/Who-is-the-favorite-in-the-MAC-GOLD-2009.html#reply-34374
The coaching staff and the community is clearly why Marine City has the program that they have, not the talent level. Since I've been old enough to pay attention to such things, I can only name two kids ever to receive D1 football scholarships coming out of Marine City, and only one (off the top of my head) who went full ride D1 in basketball (Wes Kamer to MSU for football; Brendon Kay to Cincinnati for football; and Andy Shorky to Sienna for basketball). To me, that is something for the kids to be proud of; they win because they are a team...a great program...not because they were graced with some supernatural speed or size. It takes character to build that kind of program sans the D1 talent.

Granted, it did take a freak of nature, in the form of Kay, to finally put them over the hump and bring in a state title. ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (completehomer) http://michiganhsfootball.com/sreply/34374 Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:20:16 PST http://michiganhsfootball.com/reply/34372/t/Who-is-the-favorite-in-the-MAC-GOLD-2009.html#reply-34372 feeds@kickapps.com (FSUdawg06) http://michiganhsfootball.com/sreply/34372 Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:11:52 PST http://michiganhsfootball.com/reply/34370/t/Who-is-the-favorite-in-the-MAC-GOLD-2009.html#reply-34370
Oh, and I don't think Abrams is overrated. He plays his role, which isn't that of a big play RB, like Allemon was and Scarcelli is. He makes teams worry about the holes between the tackles, which gives guys lik Scarcelli a better chance to break it big. And besides, from all reports (I've never personally met him), Abrams is about the highest quality kid you could ever hope to meet - I will never say a negative word about a kid like that. ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (completehomer) http://michiganhsfootball.com/sreply/34370 Fri, 02 Oct 2009 11:59:01 PST http://michiganhsfootball.com/reply/34369/t/Who-is-the-favorite-in-the-MAC-GOLD-2009.html#reply-34369
Sorry to say but Abrams is overrated. He is an outstanding short yardage back but he is not gamebreaking threat at all. No siginficant speed or lateral movement. No way he compares to alleman. He is a tough SOB and a guy i want on my team but he's not gonna be the threat scarcelli is.

If you think Churhan is tough, wait till you see 6'5 270 lb Leterrius Walton who is being heavily recruited by the Big 10 for football and athletic enough to be a 4 year starting shortstop and getting D1 looks at that sport too. That being said churhan is a very tough player.

Should be a great game! ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (FSUdawg06) http://michiganhsfootball.com/sreply/34369 Fri, 02 Oct 2009 11:29:52 PST http://michiganhsfootball.com/reply/34363/t/Who-is-the-favorite-in-the-MAC-GOLD-2009.html#reply-34363
Marine City's offense just has so many guys who can hurt you. Nickerson hasn't been the biggest threat out there, thus far; Scarcelli has. But in that Clawson game, Nickerson showed he certainly can break a game open with his legs. But the Ellul kid (sp?) has shown to be a tough runner, as has Kleckner and others. As usual, I think Clintondale's biggest challenge is in choosing what they want to take away, and hoping the Mariners don't beat them with something else.

I don't see anyone in the Gold holding Marine City to fewer than 28 points. But Marysville surprised me by holding... ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (completehomer) http://michiganhsfootball.com/sreply/34363 Fri, 02 Oct 2009 09:32:20 PST http://michiganhsfootball.com/reply/34361/t/Who-is-the-favorite-in-the-MAC-GOLD-2009.html#reply-34361 feeds@kickapps.com (FSUdawg06) http://michiganhsfootball.com/sreply/34361 Fri, 02 Oct 2009 09:06:20 PST http://michiganhsfootball.com/reply/34356/t/Who-is-the-favorite-in-the-MAC-GOLD-2009.html#reply-34356 feeds@kickapps.com (completehomer) http://michiganhsfootball.com/sreply/34356 Fri, 02 Oct 2009 08:23:40 PST http://michiganhsfootball.com/reply/33837/t/Who-is-the-favorite-in-the-MAC-GOLD-2009.html#reply-33837 feeds@kickapps.com (aslanprime) http://michiganhsfootball.com/sreply/33837 Sat, 19 Sep 2009 00:33:52 PST http://michiganhsfootball.com/reply/33800/t/Who-is-the-favorite-in-the-MAC-GOLD-2009.html#reply-33800
1) Agreed. They were well coached.

2) I think it was a toss up. I saw DCD struggle heavily vs Det. Southwestern in a very low scoring game.

3)agree 100%. Holland christain was the cream of the crop. ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (FSUdawg06) http://michiganhsfootball.com/sreply/33800 Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:45:32 PST http://michiganhsfootball.com/reply/33799/t/Who-is-the-favorite-in-the-MAC-GOLD-2009.html#reply-33799
1. I couldn't believe that Clintondale lost to Cros-Lex, but did think Cros-Lex was well coached (see "let-down" theory in earlier post).

2. Neither Clintondale nor Marine City could have beaten that Country Day team. Clintondale was athletic, but nothing compared to what DCD carted out onto the field. A running team like Clintondale, I don't think, would have been able to move the ball on DCD. Country Day's backs would have had a field day against the 2008 Mariner defense.

3. Nobody in D4 was fit to carry Holland Christian's jock, so it didn't matter who faced them in Ford Field, the crown was theirs. ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (completehomer) http://michiganhsfootball.com/sreply/33799 Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:41:43 PST http://michiganhsfootball.com/reply/33797/t/Who-is-the-favorite-in-the-MAC-GOLD-2009.html#reply-33797
Definite valididty but i dont think that was the case in the Crosswell game. That Barrett may as well have been raised in the mud the way he was running around. Literally inches, on about 4 occasions kept the Dragons from winning. And a crucial fumble by the QB with 2 min left in Dragon territory while trying to run out the clock. 10 men on the field for an extra point was the difference. Had they had 11, the fg by Barrett would have sent the game into overtime. ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (FSUdawg06) http://michiganhsfootball.com/sreply/33797 Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:37:13 PST http://michiganhsfootball.com/reply/33796/t/Who-is-the-favorite-in-the-MAC-GOLD-2009.html#reply-33796
If Clintondale can't play defense on a wet field, then shame on their coaching staff and grounds crew for not getting out there with mops and squeegies to make sure it was as little an issue as possible.



Dragon coaches tried to get the game moved to Fraser (field turf) but were shutdown. AD tried to rent a tarp from MCC for the field but SOMEBODY didnt want to put it up. Trust me when i tell you that the conditions werent the fault of the coaches. Plenty of blame to go around but they saw the potential problem on monday of that week. I agree with 100% of your post thought. Shouldnt have even been a close game. My brother coaches for Cdale and was VERY frustrated with how it played out. Cdale/Det country day would have been a coin flip, IMO but Holland was pretty darn good. ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (FSUdawg06) http://michiganhsfootball.com/sreply/33796 Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:34:54 PST http://michiganhsfootball.com/reply/33795/t/Who-is-the-favorite-in-the-MAC-GOLD-2009.html#reply-33795 FSUdawg06 wrote:

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If you were there, you might have noticed the mud pit on the field.

The only reason I can't accept that as an excuse is that it's their field. The Mariners incorporate a lot of fakes into thier offense...so guess what, they rarely play Satuday afternoon games because the night plays to their advantage. If Clintondale can't play defense on a wet field, then shame on their coaching staff and grounds crew for not getting out there with mops and squeegies to make sure it was as little an issue as possible.

That and Cros Lex just wasn't as good as they looked against Clintondale. They had a nice record baecause they play in the weakest league south of the Mackinac bridge. I mean, Country Day smashed em and in my opinion (because I'm not a Dragon-hater), so SHOULD HAVE Clintondale.

But, that's what makes 1-game playoffs so fun, ya just... ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (aslanprime) http://michiganhsfootball.com/sreply/33795 Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:22:15 PST http://michiganhsfootball.com/reply/33792/t/Who-is-the-favorite-in-the-MAC-GOLD-2009.html#reply-33792
I can't get the thought out of my head that the Dragons just had let downs after big games. Maybe I'm wrong, and you'd know better than me, but they lost to CL after a tight game at Marine City. Earlier in the season, they snuck out a 21-20 win against a horrible L'Anse Creuse team, one week after losing a tight one in Marine City.

Is there any validity to my thinking here? ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (completehomer) http://michiganhsfootball.com/sreply/33792 Fri, 18 Sep 2009 09:40:22 PST http://michiganhsfootball.com/reply/33789/t/Who-is-the-favorite-in-the-MAC-GOLD-2009.html#reply-33789 feeds@kickapps.com (FSUdawg06) http://michiganhsfootball.com/sreply/33789 Fri, 18 Sep 2009 09:23:45 PST http://michiganhsfootball.com/topic/6814/t/Who-is-the-favorite-in-the-MAC-GOLD-2009.html feeds@kickapps.com (Searn) http://michiganhsfootball.com/topic/6814 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:08:36 PST