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ftballer67 wrote:

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Was this the story of the assaulted hockey player,Rob Parker false accusation, and 1 White brother etc fight?

Yes, that is indeed the incident.

From what I understand, I have no significant problem with him remaining on scholarship while he serves his six months. He's locked up. Therefore, I don't believe he's eating at training table, or getting any classes or books paid for, or using up dorm space or incurring the University any typical scholarship related expense. While he's in the Grey Bar Hotel, his tab is on the taxpayers directly rather than the University. All he's really doing is taking up a scholarship spot that MSU could offer to another kid. I don't see where he's getting anything tangible in return from the University at this time.

That being said, I agree that the NCAA rule is stupid in it's basic premise, but I wouldn't suggest MSU break that rule. When his time is served, I believe they can release him from scholarship based on standard "cause" as outlined in his scholarship contract with the University.

I believe the White brother from Stevenson was kicked off the football team, but wasn't on a football scholarship anyways. I believe he was on a track scholarship, and playing football as a walk-on. Does he still have his Track scholarship?

Searn wrote:

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Kind of off subject:

Is a kid allowed to be on a track scholarship and play football as a walkon?

This came up a few years ago at Notre Dame with a player that was also going to play Lacrosse.

At this time it was stated that he was not allowed to be on Lacrosse scholarship and play football .. .and that the scholarship had to count for football because it was the larger "scholarship sport" ... as such he took up a football scholarship and played lacrosse as well at Notre Dame.

I assume it will work the same with Dion Simms from OLSM (MSU) ... since he's playing football and basketball .. the scholarship has to count towards the football numbers.

I can understand what they would be trying to prevent with a rule like that and it makes sense. Schools could load football talent onto the track team, or other less visible, less revenue teams and thus bypass scholarship limitations by delivering dual sport walk-ons. A rule like that would make sense, but I've never heard of it. If you find out for sure, post back.

I do specifically recall reading on Scout that Mitchell White was getting a track scholarship at MSU, and would be a preferred walk on for football. Had a football offer to CMU too, but turned it down.

Dion Sims is like Matt Trannon. Could have gotten a scholarship in either sport, but played both. I recall reading that the logic on Trannon being on a football scholarship was that essentially it burned a smaller percentage of scholarships for football than it would have for basketball. One out of 20 or so for his football class as opposed to one out of 4 in his basketball class. A basketball scholly is as important productiviuty wise as any 4 football schoolies. So Trannon left an extra schooly for Izzo to assign elsewhere.

Mr NCAA wrote:

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First, I think that there was some misinformation in the article. Schools can revoke the athletic scholarship for whatever reason they choose to do so. This happens all the time in the SEC since several schools routinely offer 30+ or high 20's in scholarships every year even if the limit is 85 at one time for football. In D2 a state program revoked about half the men's bb scholarships one year when a new coach took over. The players didn't do anything wrong other than playing on a team with a losing record. So shame on whoever made the comment on the scholarship.

So do we think he's on scholarship still because MSU wants it that way? They simply chose to keep him on?