I agree with BG, most of us on Searn's forum do know what it take to win in HS FB, I know I do even if I'm shallow.
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Who is the favorite in the CHSL Central - 2009
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prepseer |
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Can you imagine how the Admin.and fellow alumni feel about DC being the voice of OLSM on public forums. It has to be total embarrassment and futility as they
try to patch the fractured image of OLSM. Maybe we should all pick OLSM to win the CHSL Central, then Dallas Carter would just go away.
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dallascarter |
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Posts: 252 07/02/09 9:56 AM Forum Troublemaker
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you know prep, the funny thing about it over at o-lake is that no one gives a rats @$$ about what other people say.
and as (probably) the most recent person to play high school football on this 'forum,' i know exactly what it takes to win. honestly, that 2006 team didn't have it, which is why they "underachieved" in your "guys'" opinions. and i dont really know what back peddling you are talking about. and i was never an english major. but i bet you were a POOP major!!! POOP!!!!! one more thing preppy watcher, i really don't think one person saying poop online a bunch of times is going to affect the image of a school with thousands of graduates. so poop. |
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TestPilotII |
Under the radar.......... | #24 | ||
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Posts: 39 07/02/09 10:58 AM |
The Pilots will contend for Central title in '09. They have some really good players and some real "studs". Top players to watch: Beirnat, started at tackle last year, 6'5" and has put on 20 lbs in the weight room, D1s are looking at him as aTE because he is an excellant athlete with great hands. Smith, started at DL last year, he is big 6'4" 260, quick and mean he will play D1. Schaum, played on goalline defense last year and a backup tackle, he is big 6'6" 300, he has worked his butt off in the winter working with a speed guy, he is athletic for a big man with good feet, if he has a good season he will be D1 also. Paris, was big last year carrying the ball, he is running under 4.5. Zabawa, was also a starter last year and he will most likely start on both sides of the ball. Laudicina, tough QB who's not afraid to take a shot and has a very accurate passing arm. O'shell and Privett were both starters last year, both have dropped weight and picked up strength, they will be the anchors on both sides of the ball. McCain, started at times last year, he is big and mean and will clog the middle at LBer, he has the size to be a D1 backer. The Pilots picked up a couple of transfers, can't remember the names but I know D'Antonio has come to the school to talk to the receiver and the tackle has been offered from Wisconsin. The Pilots will have a VERY nice team in '09, it will all come down to the "intangibles" that can't be taught. |
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prepseer |
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Thanks for the preview, TPII. Pretty much what I expected. One of the most interesting comments was the drop in weight for Privett and O'Shell. I
thought a lot of the Pilot line last year looked fat, rather than big and strong. It sounds like maybe the staff is addressing that in the off-season. DLS
has had the OL/DL "size" in the CHSL the last few years, and it looks like that will continue. I wish BBR had some of that beef. They are going to
have to be fast and smart again on the line.
I find it hard to believe that you don't remember the names of the transfers--two of whom appear to be Div. 1 prospects. The WR, Patrick Harris, has had quite a bit of publicy. I don't know about the D-1 lineman, but I presume he also came from Sterling Heights. Is he a Senior transfer like Harris. Can't criticize the Harris move, but too many more upper class transfers and DLS is going to get an OLSM reputation. It looks like DLS will be a contendeer in the Central for the forseeable future. That's good. It strengthens the league and makes everyone better. No one can assume the playoffs are a lock with the Central schedule. Of all the players you mentioned, I think Zabawa will have the most impact. He is a strong, fast runner and will be dangerous. He has a lot to prove after his performance in the championship game. I also think Laudicina will be an improvemnt over last year at the QB position. Along with the intangibles that you mention, there's still the challenge of replacing the Martinez twins. That will not be easy. |
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Posts: 709 07/02/09 12:13 PM Shooter
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dallascarter wrote:Unlike some on this board, you don't have a state title ring, so you really don't know what it takes to win. |
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Mr NCAA |
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Unlike some on this board, you don't have a state title ring, so you really don't know what it takes to win. However, there is a ton of people on here who should be in that category as well including myself. |
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Searn |
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dallascarter wrote: That's all subjective .. Just my opinion ... from having seen both teams play that year going in (as well as the actual game) ... I can't honestly say that I believe that there were very many Walled Lake Central players that would have been full time starters on the 2006 Orchard Lake St. Mary team. Ya, they had some very good players .... and they were tough as a team ... but if you merged the teams into one ... and played the more talented kid at each position ... I don't think any less than 70% of the starters would have been Eaglets. |
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BigDVI |
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Posts: 2 07/02/09 4:05 PM |
BG, Baller, Kay, and Boeing.
What's up? Kay, yes the Lilly kid and the St Anne's QB (Morris) are both attending DLS. The Lilly Kid's biggest challenge will not be on the football field. It will be in the classroom. If he is up to the classroom challenge, he will have a great 4 years at DLS. The Morris kid has a good arm, and may be our first starting QB that is over 6 foot tall, once he gets his shot. Boeing, Can you give me a little break? The reason I have started posting here is because I'm tired of a couple of guys on the other forum. Stop picking on me. |
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Posts: 710 03/22/02 3:46 PM Shooter
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BigDVI wrote:No, but I'm sure a glass of warm milk will turn that frown upside down. |
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Luckily members here are able to take advantage of the 'ignore' function.
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dallascarter |
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Posts: 253 07/06/09 3:58 PM Forum Troublemaker
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i think 70% is too much. i think you are missing my point. although talent is important, the will to win and the core group of players are more important. not
to mention line play and the ability to tackle, which were less than stellar on that team.
and about me not having a ring, some say you learn more in losing than winning. that's why you should all expect big things down in ann arbor. |
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Searn |
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Is 70% too much? Hard to say ...
While as you say OLSM may have not been built to win the CHSL or even the state .... I think they should have been good enough to beat WLC OLSM took some teams that I considered very strong right down to the limit ... with 7 pt losses to my #3 and #5 teams in Michigan ... Even in the end I still considered OLSM a top 25 team in Michigan ... but I believe they had the potential to be closer to the Top 10-15 |
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Posts: 254 07/06/09 5:59 PM Forum Troublemaker
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they were a good team that got upset by a team that matched up better. but calling an entire season an upset because of that one loss isn't quite fair.
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dallascarter wrote: Sorry if I upset you with my comments ... as I understand you were a part of that team. I put a lot on playoff results compared to the regular season... I look at the regular season as more of a guage to see how a team stacks up and as a method to prepare for the postseason more than anything. A 4 loss team's season that wins a state title is much more impressive to me than a 1 loss team's season who's 1 loss was week 10,11,12,13 or 14. OLSM had a pretty good regular season overall .. I had them as the #13 team in Michigan going in ...and big favorites over the Walled Lake Central Vikings...... which results in high expectations come playoff time ... Going into the season we knew about the stars at the skill positions ... but had some questions regarding some other areas of the team .... they may have not turned out to be a complete team aside from some great talent in some areas ... but player for player they belonged in the Top 10 in Michigan ... I just didn't feel like they played to potential when it counted. OLSM is in a tough boat sometimes when it comes to "overacheiving/underachieving" due to the amount of talent they have had on the roster the past 15 seasons ... as such anything beyond a long playoff run is a bit of a disappointment to most. No program or coach is perfect .... while they didn't get as many chances due to the past playoff system ... I thought Coach Al and his Warriors were one of the biggest playoff underachievers in Michigan in the mid/late 90s until they finally got things going with some Matt Baker led teams in 1999 and 2000. |
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Posts: 255 07/06/09 7:21 PM Forum Troublemaker
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i wasnt part of that team, so dont worry about it.
but i just think its unprecedented to call a team underachievers because they got upset in a one game elimination tournament. anything can happen in one game. football needs to be one-game eliminations though, which leads to cinderellas and surprising playoff runs (NY giants, steelers, OLSM '04). but anything can happen in one game and sometimes seasons can be defined in one game, i don't think this is one of those cases. i thought people were over-hyping them to begin with, and the reason i said that is going to school a grade above them, i saw what the rest of the team was made off, and no offense to them, but they weren't great. they weren't good as freshmen or sophomores and were overshadowed by our seniors their junior year. the more hype they get, they do worse, and i don't blame the players or the coaches, i blame the media. that's why i'm picking a co-catholic league title for olsm this year. |
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Ah .... I thought you played in 05 and 06 ... I was a year off ..
I don't think it's unprecedented to judge a team based on what they did in the playoffs .... I think that happens most years with teams .. |
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Posts: 256 07/06/09 8:14 PM Forum Troublemaker
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well its fair to judge on playoffs, but i think there's a difference between saying "well, it was a decent season but they didn't do as well as i
hoped/thought" and saying they "underachieved." underachieved has a much more negative connotation to it.
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dallascarter wrote: Fair enough .. . In my own mind I'd be pretty much saying the same thing ... but if it makes you feel better about it .. . DC is the last one on here that I would expect to want things sugar coated as to not hurt feelings ... but I guess you learn something about someone every day. ... I'll try to be more politically correct and whatnot for dallascarter. Vote for 2009 MHSAA Football Conference Winners New Conference Polls to be added daily this summer. Vote on who you like for the 2009 State Championships in Division 1, Division 2, Division 3, .... more to come... |
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dallascarter |
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Posts: 257 07/07/09 7:13 PM Forum Troublemaker
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it's not sugarcoating. it's like calling someone a %#+ or a homosexual. calling them a %#+ insinuates they are a bad person, when calling them a
homosexual doesn't. see what i'm saying? i guess im just saying that people on here are trying to denounce this team because of one game.
i don't believe in political correctness like that internet celebrity president of ours who changed "terrorist attacks" to "man-caused disasters." we should call things like they are, but i don't see how losing in an upset game is underachieving. disappointing, yes. underachieving, no. |
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